The Nashvile Statement
Christians do not force Christian laws upon seculars, for that’s what Jesus taught them.
Moreover, the below statement is not based on biblical law or on the doctrine of Christ,
Note: Jesus came for the Jews, not for the Gentiles. The Gentiles chased him around and insisted he helped them, for they did believe him. And because they had faith in him, he accepted them. But Jesus, nor the Apostles have imposed Jewish laws upon the Gentiles. When Paul quotes Corinthians 6: 9 he actually communicates Judaism to Jews, referring to Jewish laws and accusing them of fornications to which only Gentiles are accustomed; for there are no Gentile laws: all bible laws are Jewish.
But when Jesus is preaching we discover that he does preach the universal ten commandments, which indeed, apply to all mankind, would they follow Christ.
Cliff: No scriptural references are supplied by the writer. He just claims that the Bible supports his views, without to make note of the relevant verses.
Evangelical Christians at the dawn of the twenty-first century find themselves living in a period of historic transition.
As Western culture has become increasingly post-Christian, it has embarked upon a massive revision of what it means to be a human being.
By and large the spirit of our age no longer discerns or delights in the beauty of God’s design for human life. Many deny that God created human beings for his glory, and that his good purposes for us include our personal and physical design as male and female. It is common to think that human identity as male and female is not part of God’s beautiful plan, but is, rather, an expression of an individual’s autonomous preferences. The pathway to full and lasting joy through God’s good design for his creatures is thus replaced by the path of shortsighted alternatives that, sooner or later, ruin human life and dishonour God.
Cliff: But the greater transgressors and offenders in all this are the false churches, as we see this same revision and dishonour of God in their false doctrines and their perverse sexual scandals.
This secular spirit of our age presents a great challenge to the Christian church. Will the church of the Lord Jesus Christ lose her biblical conviction, clarity, and courage, and blend into the spirit of the age? Or will she hold fast to the word of life, draw courage from Jesus, and unashamedly proclaim his way as the way of life? Will she maintain her clear, counter-cultural
witness to a world that seems bent on ruin?
Cliff: No, sir! Losing her biblical conviction? This is not possible: for the church of Jesus Christ is Christian; and thus existing of the repented and baptized in his name, being re-born of incorruptible seed: holy beings known as Christians. No doubt you do mean ‘Church organizations, Church institutions’, which of course, cannot be baptized to the cleansing of sin?
We are persuaded that faithfulness in our generation means declaring once again the true story of the world and of our place in it—particularly as male and female. Christian Scripture teaches that there is but one God who alone is Creator and Lord of all. To him alone, every person owes gladhearted thanksgiving, heart-felt praise, and total allegiance. This is the path not only of glorifying God, but of knowing ourselves. To forget our Creator is to forget who we are, for he made us for himself. And we cannot know ourselves truly without truly knowing him who made us. We did not make ourselves. We are not our own. Our true identity, as male and female persons, is given by God. It is not only foolish but hopeless, to try to make ourselves what God did not create us
We believe that God’s design for his creation and his way of salvation serve to bring him the greatest glory and bring us the greatest good. God’s good plan provides us with the greatest freedom. Jesus said he came that we might have life and have it in overflowing measure. He is for us and not against us. Therefore, in the hope of serving Christ’s church and witnessing publicly to the good purposes of God for human sexuality revealed in Christian Scripture, we offer the following affirmations and denials.
Cliff: But, before you proceed, should you not furnish us with the New Testament reference affirming your claim that Jesus revealed the ‘good purpose’ for human sexuality? As far as I can read, from the first to the last page of the Gospel, Jesus did not say any such thing: but “Love your neighbour like you love your self”, he did say. According to you, anyone who is born with imperfect limbs should not undergo surgery to rectify the imperfections; and this is pure evil. And how many minister’s wives opt for cosmetic plastic surgery?
Hypocrite! If you don’t bring this to our attention in your own name, then Just show us where God tells us that all this you claim to be the truth – is the truth.
WE AFFIRM that God has designed marriage to be a covenantal, sexual, procreative, lifelong union of one man and one woman, as husband and wife, and is meant to signify the covenant love between Christ and his bride the church.
Affirmation: False! We only need to read the Old Testament to discover that God did not create man to espouse but one wife. O.T. ( The Old Testament ) Jews and many other nations in the region had several wives. And thus it is also clear that only for some Christians marriage may signify the covenant love between Christ and his bride the church. God commanded marriage so that the Jews would not fornicate, but become ‘one flesh’ and thus unable to fornicate: for with your own flesh you cannot fornicate.
WE DENY that God has designed marriage to be a homosexual, polygamous, or polyamorous relationship. We also deny that marriage is a mere human contract rather than a covenant made
God did not design marriage: else, tell us where in the bible this is recorded (and please don’t mention Adam and Eve) for god just created Adam, then Eve as his companion. This we read from the writer of the book of Genesis (believed to be Moses). Hereafter the natural process followed and they became man and wife and begot children. The word ‘wife’ is first used by Adam, not by God. But of course, it could be the writer of the book of Genesis(Moses) who first used the word about 300 years after the creation of Adam and Eve: this through divine revelation, for he wasn’t there.
GEN 2: 18
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Secondly, we can read in the commandments that man were not to excessively increase their wives as to put their heart upon the flesh and forget God and his law (indicating that God was aware that they had multiple wives). Then we read that God promises both Sarai/Sarah and Abram/Abraham’s wife, that he shall multiply their seed like the sand of the sea. This could never be achieved with one wive per male. So God clearly approved of polygamy, else he would have commanded: Thou shalt have but one wife.
WE AFFIRM that God’s revealed will for all people is chastity outside of marriage and fidelity
God did not design marriage, men did. The Jewish commandments imposed upon the Hebrews introduced that if a man would have intercourse with a woman he would surely take her to be his wife.
WE DENY that any affections, desires, or commitments ever justify sexual intercourse before or
outside marriage; nor do they justify any form of sexual immorality.
God did justify sexual intercourse before marriage, if the man would then take to woman to be his wife. This is a Jewish Law, from the days of Moses. Jesus brought us Christianity and one sacrifice for sins: The intervolved Repentance and . All men have sin: none is without. That’s why Jesus brought us one remission for sin: repentance and baptism, to the rebirth of incorruptible seed and everlasting holiness.
We are gentiles, no Jewish law has been put upon us by Jesus, save the universal ten commandments which we discover in his preachings! Even the Apostles decided not to put circumcision upon us; for we are gentiles. Who then are you? Would one of these laws apply to us, then all 613 Jewish laws would apply to us.
WE AFFIRM that God created Adam and Eve, the first human beings, in his own image, equal before God as persons, and distinct as male and female.
WE DENY that the divinely ordained differences between male and female render them unequal in dignity or worth.
Denial: True, if the writer does acknowledge that those born ‘inbetween’ or swapped around, are, physically and mentally, also God’s divine creation. For, as Jesus’ Apostle says: we are all one ‘In Christ Jesus’: and in the world man and woman are likewise equal.
WE AFFIRM that divinely ordained differences between male and female reflect God’s original creation design and are meant for human good and human flourishing.
WE DENY that such differences are a result of the Fall or are a tragedy to be overcome.
Denial: True: If meaning the ‘Fall of Men’ through the sin of Adam and Eve. But if a person is unhappy about their body, to such an extent that it becomes a tragedy, they can do as he likes to modify it: for the Gospel does not teach us otherwise.
WE AFFIRM that the differences between male and female reproductive structures are integral
to God’s design for self-conception as male or female.
So, according to you, when a child is borne with defective limbs, surgeons may not repair these, for God so wants the child to go through life, suffering from handicap? I bet you’d say ‘NO’ on this one, for else your churches would run empty in no time at all!
Here you confirm that you do not love your neighbor: contrary to what Jesus demands from you!
You say that if a person has been born a male, but with distinctive female characteristics, and this person also feels very much female and even moves like one, they should just suffer the pains that torment them and refrain from a sex change.
But the Gospel tells us to love our neighbour like our selves; do unto one as you would like them to do unto you, without telling us that we cannot change our body. So you have no biblical foundation for this article.
WE DENY that physical anomalies or psychological conditions nullify the God-appointed link
between biological sex and self-conception as male or female.
Nowhere in the Gospel has Jesus commanded anyone to accept his person the way he was born. And so our body belongs to us and we may do therewith as we please. It is very clear that you, ‘ministers of men’, are indoctrinating your unread followers and sympathizers in support of your selfish notion, which is far short of the neighbourly love Jesus demands you should possess, would you truly believe in him.
They that suffer the discomfort of physical anomalies and tormenting psychological conditions, particularly if they are ‘well-read’ believers, would most certainly disagree with this article; for it has no footing in Christianity. Nowhere in the Gospel has sex change been prohibited; and in the Old Testament God did prohibit that a Jewish man wears female clothes or that he engages in homosexual intercourse. And sexual intercourse between woman has not been prohibited, but a woman was prohibited to wear male clothes DEU 22: 5.
Apologists will use Paul’s reference to sinful Jews in ROM: 1:26-27, who, knowing the law, yet disobeyed it. Which law? The law of Moses, no doubt! What gentile knew the law of Moses? He is writing to Gentiles. This is Paul preaching Jewish law, even mentioning that the circumcised become ‘uncircumcised’ through sin: this, without doubt indicating that he is referring to Jewish sinners from among his people, while he is writing to Strangers in Rome, about 60 years after Jesus was crucified. And this while the other Apostles decided not to impose circumcision unto the Gentiles.
ROM 2: 25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
We are the generation of Christ, and also Gentiles: if one Jewish law applies to us then the whole Jewish law applies to us, for transgression of one law is transgression of all laws. But Jesus did not command this!
WE AFFIRM that those born with a physical disorder of sex development are created in the image of God and have dignity and worth equal to all other image-bearers. They are acknowledged by our Lord Jesus in his words about “eunuchs who were born that way from their mother’s womb.” With all others, they are welcome as faithful followers of Jesus Christ and should embrace their biological sex insofar as it may be known.
The writer is not acknowledging the people who God created with a gender-psychological disorder, as if the mind and the soul are not created by God. This article refers to line 12 of Matthew 19: Read the full chapter.
MAT 19: 12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake.
He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
WE DENY that ambiguities related to a person’s biological sex render one incapable of living a fruitful life in joyful obedience to Christ.
So, like they were biologically born, or like they were biologically modified by men, they ‘can’ become Christians, right? That’s fine.
WE AFFIRM that self-conception as male or female should be defined by God’s holy purposes
in creation and redemption as revealed in Scripture.
Where revealed in scripture? Nowhere!
If a Christian decides to look at the matter in this way then that is fine. But anyone has the right to decide if they are male or female: for the ‘self’ by large is the mind; not the flesh. And again, our minister of men cannot show us where God commands this self-conception.
WE DENY that adopting a homosexual or transgender self-conception is consistent with God’s
holy purposes in creation and redemption.
God created the body, the soul and the mind. If the body is male and the mind is female than it is just as easy to affirm that God will accept the person when their mind rejects their body and they physically change sex. Nowhere in the Gospel or the OT is it mentioned that one cannot alter the body.
WE AFFIRM that people who experience sexual attraction for the same sex may live a rich and fruitful life pleasing to God through faith in Jesus Christ, as they, like all Christians, walk in purity of life.
Indeed, good-hearted believers, as well as Christians, can experience attraction for the same sex, yet (according to the writer) if they would not respond to it, they would not violate and thus would be acceptable. But the bible gives us no proof of this, relating to gentiles and lesbians.
WE DENY that sexual attraction for the same sex is part of the natural goodness of God’s
original creation, or that it puts a person outside the hope of the gospel.
Indeed, God created men male and female, so that they may produce off-spring; so that was the purpose from the beginning. And people attracted to the same sex, indeed, can accept the Gospel, repent and baptize and become Christians. I take it, if they just don’t get involved with each other, right?
The natural goodness of God’s creation is to be found not only in Adam and Eve, as male and female, but in all the off-spring that proceeded from them. The moment Adam and Eve sinned, that naturally good creation, yet corruptible, was indeed corrupted. And henceforth they would be in the world, and so their offspring.
Subsequently, men turned out to be so bad in God’s eyes that he destroyed mankind, save Noah and his family. So what is good, let God judge! Even Jesus tells us: none is good but God in heaven. Good in our eyes is not the same as in God’s eyes.
LUK 18: 19
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
WE AFFIRM that sin distorts sexual desires by directing them away from the marriage covenant and toward sexual immorality— a distortion that includes both heterosexual and homosexual immorality.
The only way sin distorts sexual desires is to cause one to fornicate. Sin does the same with love, distorting it to jealousy and/or hatred. And with faith in Christ, distorting it to faith in men: like faith in the ministry if men. Like Jesus said: JOH 5: 43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. Thus the fake ministry far outnumbers the true ministry of Christ, both in membership and funds. Like Jesus said: Many are called but few are chosen!
MAT 22: 14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
WE DENY that an enduring pattern of desire for sexual immorality justifies sexually immoral
Believers should not believe that they can continue in fornication after they become Christians, for this is not possible. If they do, they are ‘NOT’ Christians.
Would a believer experience a constant urge for sexual gratification, and as a result of this desire also be inclined to fornicate, or even actually fornicate, then this would not be a problem, for they are not ‘Christians’. With Christians this is not possible, for they were born again of incorruptible seed).
Were it possible for True Christians to sin, then, due to the constant misinterpretation of ‘Holy’ and ‘Christian’, Paul was forced to tell you what the consequence would be:
HEB 10: 26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
HEB 10: 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
WE AFFIRM that it is sinful to approve of homosexual immorality or transgenderism and that such approval constitutes an essential departure from Christian faithfulness and witness.
As the writer is addressing believers and those who regard them selves Christian, indeed he does impose his unfounded notion upon them. But, as the Gospel supplies us with no solid proof for this ‘assumed truth’, we must leave it to the GLT to proof it right or wrong. Christ has never spoken to the gentiles about these matters and Jewish law was not imposed upon the gentiles: just the ten universal commandments, through Jesus’ preachings.
WE DENY that the approval of homosexual immorality or transgenderism is a matter of moral indifference about which otherwise faithful Christians should agree to disagree.
Again, aimed at believers and those who believe they are Christians. The writer states that they should not agree with homosexuality and transgenderism amongst believers and Christians.
a) even if it was 100% certain that homosexually active gentile gays could not convert to Christianity, the same could not be said of transgenders.
A person could change sex from female to male, but then only court females, likewise a man could change sex to female and only court woman.
b) any Christian could approve of trasgenderism, for people do this because they feel uncomfortable with their body; because their mind and soul by large relate to the opposite sex. And so neighborly love comes to mind – the 2nd commandment: Mark 12:31. No faithful Christian should ever forget to love their neighbour like their selves.
Christians are told to have faith in Christ, not in Church organizations or in ministers: no way!
Jesus teaches us to love our neighbour like our selves, and at no time did he taught the gentiles that they should account homosexuality, Lesbianism and trasgenderism as sins. Neither did God commanded the Jews that they could not modify their physical form.
Take the Apostolic incident of ACTS: 15:1 – 12 whereby some Jews attempt to impose the Jewish law of circumcision upon the gentiles.
The Apostle Peter then explains that God is of no such intent, for only through faith in Jesus men shall saved: this being repenting and baptizing in the name of Jesus Christ. But yes, if you have studied the Gospel soundly you will have read what the Gospel reads in James 12:10: transgression of one commandment is transgression of all commandments!
This clarifies everything: if gentiles would be required to adopt one Jewish law, then they would be required to adopt all the Jewish laws. So why should transgender Christian females (actually males) not wear female clothes? Because God forbids it in the Gospel? Wrong! For if they must follow this law, then they must also follow the remaining 612 Jewish laws!
And nowhere in the bible does God command men not to change their physical image. If you may not change from male to female then you may not do plastic surgery either: yet plenty Christians do this, right?
WE AFFIRM our duty to speak the truth in love at all times, including when we speak to or about one another as male or female.
Like you know, every coin has two sides and an in-between.
The readers may decide for themselves if the writer is consciously speaking a un-truth through this statement, or perhaps by accident. I assume that when we speak to or about people who are part male and part female, we cannot certain honesty in love?
If in this statement they speak the truth then why don’t they give us biblical references to solidify their ‘truth’? Because it is clearly ‘not’ the truth.
WE DENY any obligation to speak in such ways that dishonour God’s design of his imagebearers as male and female.
The writer does not approve of trasgenderism, for it is his opinion that God disapproves of it, while God did create them thus, and Jesus has never revealed to us that these people ought to be disapproved of by his followers. But Jesus did say: “love your neighbour like your self”, and:
MAT 7: 1
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
MAT 7: 2
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
WE AFFIRM that the grace of God in Christ gives both merciful pardon and transforming power, and that this pardon and power enable a follower of Jesus to put to death sinful desires and to walk in a manner worthy of the Lord.
WE DENY that the grace of God in Christ is insufficient to forgive all sexual sins and to give power for holiness to every believer who feels drawn into sexual sin.
Denial: False or accidentally flawed. Is he attempting to shield fraudulent ministers?
Affirmation should read: …that the grace of God in Christ is insufficient to forgive all sexual sins committed before conversion (repentance and baptism) and to give power for holiness to every believer who feels drawn into sexual sin. After repentance and baptism, there is no further remission for sins!
WE AFFIRM that the grace of God in Christ enables sinners to forsake transgender self-conceptions and by divine forbearance to accept the God-ordained link between one’s biological sex and one’s self-conception as male or female.
a) where in the Gospel is it written that any transgender should desire this? If God created them ‘in-between two sexes’ have they not the right to choose for the prevailing sex?
b) Indeed, through Jesus, one can enable wonders, but not everyone can do this: only they that can receive it. Recall Jesus’ Eunuch proverb regarding Jewish divorce?
WE DENY that the grace of God in Christ sanctions self-conceptions that are at odds with God’s revealed will.
And where in the bible has God revealed this ‘will’ to us? Do any of you guys EVER give a biblical reference on any of your claims?
There are 613 commandments, of which 12 are universal and apply to all Christians: but not one reflects any of your claims!
WE AFFIRM that Christ Jesus has come into the world to save sinners and that through Christ’s death and resurrection forgiveness of sins and eternal life are available to every person who repents of sin and trusts in Christ alone as Savior, Lord, and supreme treasure.
The writer, yet again, is using shady formulation (trademark of the Pseudo-Christian) to mislead the reader:
The only thing that became available after Jesus’ death is the Holy Ghost; but the reader can be misled into believing that simply turning from sin to their own definition and trusting in Christ to their own measure will save them: and this means business for the churches – for it is so easy to do!
a) Affirmation: – first part of line 1 is correct: “WE AFFIRM that Christ Jesus has come into the world to save sinners”.
b) Second part of line 1 is incorrect: indeed, Jesus died on the cross because of what he was teaching: the Gospel to salvation. And Jesus said that only after he died the Holy Ghost would become available to the repented and baptized believers. Jesus never said that through his death and resurrection forgiveness of sin and eternal life shall be available or obtainable to people who repent of their sins and trust in him alone as saviour.
Jesus, from the first to the last page is telling and teaching us to repent and baptize in HIS name: – Jesus Christ. And during his preaching, he defines trust in him as Faith and Repentance as a prerequisite for Baptism: – the final step en route to forgiveness of sin, reception of the Holy Ghost, a better life on earth and everlasting life in heaven, after one’s resurrection. And we can read Jesus forgive people their sins before he died, as we can also read how at the beginning of the Gospel John the Baptist is baptizing people ‘to the remission of sin’.
Faith = believing the doctrine of the Gospel.
Repentance = turning from everything which Christ specified he disapproves of.
Baptism = the final step in the process, a cleansing ritual whereby all your sins are shed and you become a “Christian”. Now you are holy, now your body is a temple and only now you can receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
WE DENY that the Lord’s arm is too short to save or that any sinner is beyond his reach.
The Gospel does not contain any proof that Gentile Trasgenderism shall be accounted to them as sin, so we cannot confidently so conclude.
As for his use of the word ‘Reach’, I can interpret this as simply touching one: The rest depends on God.
JOH 6: 37
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise castout.
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